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Poll: Tyre Choice

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#21 Tuatha

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 04:20 PM

I checked the Toyo site and, as people have already said, don't have a 225/45 listed (only 225/40) *BUT* DŁmon TwŁŁks list one!

Typo??
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Posted 18 January 2009 - 05:26 PM

Toyo list the T1-R as being available in 225/45ZR18 95Y on both the toyojapan.com and toyo.com websites.

Also, when I enquired last week about 225/45R18 Falken FK452 from a local tyre fitter, I was offered the T1-R as an alternative, as the FK452, at least in this size, seem to be difficult to get hold of.
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 10:36 AM

:lol:

The poll has been up for a week now, so I'll give it a few more days before removing tyres that have received no votes :(

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 10:39 AM

I was wondering how much tyres differ in weight - although I guess it can't be too much.

Anyway, for reference, I weighed my Rays that are currently shod in (barely legal) Bridgestone Potenza RE040's and this was the result:

Front: 19.9 KG
Rear: 21.9 KG


When I was tarting about getting my Rays powder coated I weighed an assortment of tyres, I'll see if I can find the results.

I can remember that Toyo Proxes came out lightest between Avon ZZ3 & B/S RE040. :hello:
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 01:09 PM

I was wondering how much tyres differ in weight - although I guess it can't be too much.

Anyway, for reference, I weighed my Rays that are currently shod in (barely legal) Bridgestone Potenza RE040's and this was the result:

Front: 19.9 KG
Rear: 21.9 KG


Seems a little heavy, I have just weighed the set I got ftom Puerto, weights are as follows:

Front: 18.5kg (225/45 R 18 Michelin Pilot Sport)
Rear: 20.5kg (245/45 ZR 18 Michelin Pilot Sport)

18" Rays (unsure of age but look the same as on my 2008) Used but all with good tread depth. Weighed on bathroom scales so maybe +/- 10% ?
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 01:34 PM

tirerack.com list the weight in lbs of the tyres they sell.

e.g. 225/45R18 Continental Sport Contact 3: 23 lbs, Bridgestone RE-040: 28 lbs
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Posted 19 January 2009 - 03:44 PM

Excellent tip :hello:

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 10:50 PM

Further to my last a little more research has shown the 912's to be aimed at cars with a max of 250 bhp, and wet weather grip is nowhere near as good as the 452 (I've not noticed having any with mine so definately avoiding these)

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 10:54 PM

Further to my last a little more research has shown the 912's to be aimed at cars with a max of 250 bhp, and wet weather grip is nowhere near as good as the 452 (I've not noticed having any with mine so definately avoiding these)

Thanks for the info :)

I am on the verge of ordering a full set and I notice the FK-452's are getting thin on the ground already (if you pardon the expression!)

So far camskill is the cheapest but my favourite local tyre fitter wants Ł20 a wheel for fitting and disposal of the old tyre.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 10:56 PM

Not only are the bridgestones RE040's rubbish, they are flippin heavy as well.

This is a pretty useful chart .... http://www.tirerack....lay.jsp?type=MP

The top 5 tyres are available for the 18" rays as well.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 09:17 AM

Nice of Bridgestone to make so many variants of the Potenza RE050 eh? It appears 6 times in the list from position #3 to #27!
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Posted 24 January 2009 - 04:51 PM

Damo,

Would it be possible to add a Not Applicable option to the Track Use part of the poll?
The reason for this is that I was going to vote for Summer & Winter tyres, but not for Track Use as I have no experience of using a Z on a track and therefore have no opinion on them.
However, when I try to vote for just the Summer & Winter options, I get an error message as I haven't entered a vote in the Track Use section.

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 08:47 PM

I've a quick (and probably daft) question....

I'm looking to buy some Falken FK452's for my Rays and I reckon I'll get them from tyretraders.com. The only thing is the rears show as 'FALKEN 245/45ZR18.100Y FK-452 MFS' and I've never heard anyone mention 'MFS' before. The fronts are listed as 'FALKEN 225/45R18 95Y FK452'.

Are 'MFS' the right tyres? And what the heck does it stand for?!

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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:45 PM

MFS = Max flange shield

whatever that means :thumbsup: :thumbs:
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:48 PM

Are 'MFS' the right tyres? And what the heck does it stand for?!

MFS = Maximum Flange Shield :thumbsup: (aka Rim Protection)
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Posted 26 January 2009 - 09:51 PM

Excellent :thumbsup: Thanks chaps :thumbs:

Shame I can't get that on the fronts then ;)

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Posted 27 January 2009 - 10:14 AM

Damo,

Would it be possible to add a Not Applicable option to the Track Use part of the poll?
The reason for this is that I was going to vote for Summer & Winter tyres, but not for Track Use as I have no experience of using a Z on a track and therefore have no opinion on them.
However, when I try to vote for just the Summer & Winter options, I get an error message as I haven't entered a vote in the Track Use section.

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Thanks for raising this Pud :thumbsup:

Hopefully you can vote now :thumbs:
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 10:58 AM

I'm sure everyone has voted as best they can but how is it possible that the best summer and race tyre (Toyo Proxes T1-R) can also be leading the best winter tyre?! A summer/track tyre (eg the very well regarded R888) usually has less tread to maximise grip in hot/dry conditions. You have to be more careful in the wet as they're just not as good as clearing away water than a proper winter tyre.

and I would rather stick pins in my eyes than use a race tyre in the snow!

So how come the T1-R is scoring so well across all 3 categories, is it just that it's a really good compromise tyre & people don't typically use specialist tyres for track days??

I hope it's not just me that thinks the results are a little skewed for some reason.
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Posted 27 January 2009 - 11:45 AM

I think it does come down to many people having a tyre that is "a jack of all trades"

I am sure that there are better track tyres and winter tyres out there than the Toyo, but they hit a price point, have a suitable size range and most people do not have a set of winter, a set of summer and a set of track tyres... they have an all-rounder.

I had Toyos on both my 18" and 19" rims, used them for summer, winter and track and they never let me down :thumbsup:

If I had had the opportunity to try numerous tyres for various uses than I may have voted differently, I guess
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Posted 28 January 2009 - 03:13 PM

Any mention of the sport maxx gt yet? (very different to the sport maxx)

It's a EPIC tyre!

http://www.tyrerevie...ort-maxx-gt.htm