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#1 zedbedee

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Posted 10 March 2018 - 10:08 AM

Hi

 

I have bought a few bits of body styling, one of them was a rear spoiler, I placed it on the back of the zed to see what it looks like, but I can't decide if I want to fix it on permanently or not, It does mean drilling holes in the bodywork which I am not keen on.

 

yes or no?

 

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I tried to put the pictures on in 'full screen' but I can only do them in thumbnails, is there a tutorial I can find out 'how to' please

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 10 March 2018 - 10:51 AM

I like it :)

 

Are you planning on removing the factory lip spoiler?  I think that needs to go if possible.

 

(BTW, if you click on the thumbnails they pop up full size)


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Posted 10 March 2018 - 12:04 PM

I took a look at removing the factory fitted lip spoiler but I don't know what is holding it on, I found two 8mm nuts under the hatch and removed them but couldn't find anything else and it was stuck fast.

 

I thought of attaching the spoiler to the lip spoiler to minimize the damage to the hatch in case we don't like it or want to change it back.

 

BTW some members pictures are full size and not in thumbnail format is what I mean.

 

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Posted 10 March 2018 - 01:03 PM

I believe the OEM spoiler is held on by a few bolts (likely the ones you found) and a whole lot of sticky stuff. It does come off but will need a lot of persuasion.

I'm not sure attaching it to the oem spoiler would be strong enough, but a bodyshop will know much better than I.


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Posted 10 March 2018 - 02:08 PM

I think it will look good as a replacement for the lip.  Are you planning of having it sprayed or keep it white.  I think the only way to hold the wing on (the pressure its under at 75Mph is fairly significant - my wing is 150lbs of downward force at 75Mph).  Is to do the deed and drill it.  But as far as I know most wings are bolted on - certainly the Nismo Wings are.

 


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Posted 10 March 2018 - 02:28 PM

I also think the NISMO 350 wing was designed to go over the standard one so that it didn't have to be removed.


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Posted 10 March 2018 - 03:50 PM

  Are you planning of having it sprayed or keep it white.  I think the only way to hold the wing on (the pressure its under at 75Mph is fairly significant - my wing is 150lbs of downward force at 75Mph).  Is to do the deed and drill it.  But as far as I know most wings are bolted on - certainly the Nismo Wings are.

 

 

If I do put it on I will be having it sprayed professionally to match the zed.

 

 I  agree the only way to fix it is with suitable through hole bolts & washers in the hatch, hence my hesitation.

 

I can leave the spoiler resting on the back for as long as it takes to make a decision, but once the hatch has holes drilled in it there is no easy way back.

 

I looked at having the lip where it is and the spoiler in front and above it, it does look quite good with a double-decker spoiler effect.

 

My thoughts are with selling one day, this might put a prospective buyer off to see an additional spoiler or four black rubber grommets in the bolt holes.



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Posted 11 March 2018 - 01:12 PM

The rear standard spoiler is bolted and taped but it can be removed.  use a stiff plastic spreader as used in mixing filler to remove  taped spoiler from tailgate then 

 

 bolt your new spoiler to the standard one  and refit to tailgate this way you only have to replace the standard spoiler when selling the car.  :D  :thumbs:


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 09:43 PM

I did think of putting the spoiler just in front of the lip spoiler but I don't think it will look as good as putting it directly on top.

 

The whole thing will look different again once it has been sprayed.

 

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Posted 11 March 2018 - 09:54 PM

Just out of idle curiosity, the OEM boltholes don't match up with the support posts do they?  I imagine probably not, but it would make life very easy of they did . . .

 

As for removing the sticky stuff that's holding the original lip spoiler, you need a fair bit of heat (a hairdryer on its hottest setting is about right - see if your good lady wife will lend you hers, unless you have your own . . .) and a very flat ice scraper or similar.


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 10:01 PM

I remember someone suggested using some fishing line to 'floss' under the wing to help get it off (with a good amount of heat as said).  I can't vouch for this approach because I wonder if it might damage the paint, but someone else might have more experience and be able to offer an option...


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 10:26 PM

Just out of idle curiosity, the OEM boltholes don't match up with the support posts do they?

 

Unfortunately, no



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Posted 11 March 2018 - 10:29 PM

The problem with removing the lip and attaching the spoiler to the hatch is that it puts the spoiler at a steep angle looking up at the front.


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 10:31 PM

 

Unfortunately, no

 

That's a shame.  As you were then.

 

I remember someone suggested using some fishing line to 'floss' under the wing to help get it off (with a good amount of heat as said).  I can't vouch for this approach because I wonder if it might damage the paint, but someone else might have more experience and be able to offer an option...

 

No, I now remember hearing the same.  It might be more gentle than just about anything else.  I just fear what the rubbing/sawing action might do around the edges - as you say - so would also defer to someone who'd actually tried it.


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 10:34 PM

The problem with removing the lip and attaching the spoiler to the hatch is that it puts the spoiler at a steep angle looking up at the front.

 

It might be worth asking your bodyshop if they might be prepared to cut/grind off the bottom of the posts at an angle so as to lower the front of it down a bit.


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Posted 11 March 2018 - 10:49 PM

Not sure the Nismo does fit over the standard lip spoiler, the lip spoiler is much wider than the base of the Nismo

 

To get the standard lip spoiler off is a pita, but a combination of pushing on the bolts from underneath, gentle pressure from various plastic kitchen utensils and lots of heat gets it off. Then lots of sticky stuff remover to get rid of the adhesive residue.

 

The Nismo has 4 bolts and the rear most bolts do line up with the lip spoiler bolts, so there are two new holes that need drilling which is a bit scary lol


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 11:50 AM

Not sure whether this will help or not, but here's two 350s, one with the NISMO kit and one a standard GT:

 

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Posted 12 March 2018 - 01:58 PM

 

It might be worth asking your bodyshop if they might be prepared to cut/grind off the bottom of the posts at an angle so as to lower the front of it down a bit.

 

The threaded metal bolt holes are through a 1/8'' steel plate which are fixed to the bottom of the fibreglass spoiler mounts, so changing the angle is not an option without cutting the GRP and resetting the steel plates to obtain a different angle. 

 

I do think the additional spoiler on top of the original lip looks quite good.......or even......ok!... :)  



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Posted 12 March 2018 - 02:01 PM

Not sure whether this will help or not, but here's two 350s, one with the NISMO kit and one a standard GT:

 

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Thank you, it does give a very good visual example side by side.  :thumbs:



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Posted 13 March 2018 - 08:00 PM

I have decided, I have secured the spoiler to the lip spoiler.

 

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