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#1 JohnFK

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 02:14 pm

This thread is a follow on to http://forums.nissan...er-train/page-2 and I’ve started it because it turns out the subject wasn’t quite accurate! Firstly, apologies for how long this has taken me to post. As is often the case, life has got in the way of drafting this report!

 

I attended the meeting with Nissan at my Dealership, my invitation coming about as described in the previous thread. It turns out the Nissan representatives wanted to interview me separately from the Dealership sales specialist so that part was done first without me present.

 

I was then invited in to meet the group of five persons attending. We were only introduced by name and I wasn’t made aware of their roles until the day following the interview. The interview was video recorded and turned out to be a question and answer session where I would be doing all the answering! I was told that I should express my opinions honestly… More of that later…

I was invited to give an introduction so I said who I was, my ownership experience, and my membership of nissansportz, etc. I also handed them a document that I’d prepared from the responses that several of you made in the previous thread. FYI a copy of that document is attached here: Attached File  FutureZ.pdf   505.01KB   19 downloads

 

Then the questions started and it became obvious that the information they were collecting was much more generic than that for a successor to the 370. In fact, later questions lead me to believe it was more relevant to a future top of the range sportscar (e.g. an R36?).

 

So I spent over an hour telling them my opinions…

  • They produced photos of various other make sportscars and asked which one did I think looked best – my answer was that they should adhere to the uniqueness of the GT-R’s looks and the Nissan family. Its not German, its not British, Its not American and trying to mimic any of those would lose their image.
  • They asked about future power train, and my answer was pretty much as in the document I’d produced from your input – if it has to be a hybrid it should not be a plug-in. I did say the recently announced use of a F1 powerpack (all made by McLaren) in an Infiniti had really excited me. Perhaps a roadgoing sportscar partnership between McLaren and Nissan?
  • I was asked various other questions: How many seats? Four-wheel drive? Type of gearbox controls? Etc.
  • I was also asked for criticisms of the existing R35 (that’s when I really twigged this wasn’t about just a future Z!).
  • I was also asked my opinions regarding the Nismo variants of that and other models. I said that in my opinion they need to be careful not to degrade the Nismo brand (like Mercedes have risked with “AMG” badges!). I did say the seats in the Juke Nismo were the nicest I’ve ever sat in (I think I got brownie points for that – see attendees roles later).

When the time ran out I realised they’d given very little away. There were no leading questions, and not much positive or negative expressions at my answers. I think they did a far better job at that than I did.

But it was great to meet them and I got the feeling this was a genuine attempt to shape their future plans… Hope I’m around for an R36!

 

Nissan attendees:

  • Jamie McLean – Nismo Product Planning (Europe)
  • Kosuke Arai – Product Planning (Japan)
  • Takashi Noguchi – Design (Japan)
  • Tatsuya Shindou – Engineering (Japan)
  • Jorge Paganetto – Product Planning (Europe)

 


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#2 LESmo

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 04:34 pm

Wow :notworthy:  :notworthy: :notworthy:  :notworthy:  

 

That is a serious impressive collective of people.  I don't think they could have had anyone with so much experience of the different versions of the GTR

 

I agree with the Nismo brand usage. 

 

Interesting these things go on in the design cycle.  We have already seen visits to the design studio etc.  It seems Nissan are seeking views but not in a overly public way.  It will be fun to find out if any of your views make it to any of the final designs. 


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#3 JohnFK

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Posted 08 October 2019 - 05:04 pm

I forgot to say that in my view the lack of questions on the subject of a new Z it sounds like the 370Z replacement is done and dusted.... or not to be! Chubbs may know better but he signed an NDA (I didn't :P ) - However this means all the above are just my personal deductions / opinions.


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Blade Silver Juke NISMO Manual - Dumbo

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MY11 with Recaros - The General
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Posted 09 October 2019 - 02:51 am

Wow - that sounds like a very interesting meeting...

 

I'm glad they asked you John.  I liked your answers :teeth:


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Posted 09 October 2019 - 05:23 am

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 08:42 am

I am really late to this party, as I’ve only just started my Z ownership, but we all have an opinion on what we’d like to see going forward.

With the move towards eco-friendliness, I guess some sort of hybrid power-train is almost inevitable - which is not necessarily a bad thing.

My lads own car is a mild hybrid Honda CRZ. As a first car, it’s somewhat left-field, but it has sporty looks, goes reasonably well, and as already mentioned is a hybrid - not in a Prius sort of way, it can’t be driven on electric power alone, the integrated motor assist (IMA) is there to help with the lack of torque from the NA 1.5 litre engine, and in this it performs quite well, using regenerative energy under braking to recharge the relatively small battery.

By pure fluke, a few years ago, I was wandering around the streets of San Francisco, and came across an F1 car parked at the side of the road (seriously)! As I approached it, a whole gaggle of people came out from a building next to it and started prepping it. I had stumbled upon the Red Bull promotional team in the middle of a video shoot, so I stopped and watched.

I ended up spending over an hour chatting to Joe Robinson, who used to be Sebastián Vettel’s Chief Engineer, about F1 technology, and in particular the KERS system, and how their version of it worked. Fascinating stuff, but something along those lines, where the electric motor is placed in between the two halves of the turbo, to spin it up with no lag, overboost if needed (you can effectively run a petrol engine like a diesel, and use detonation for power rather than a burn, but need a very strong engine for this), and recover energy from the overrun. These are my layman terms, not necessarily his, but you get the idea.

So what I’m trying to say, is that hybrids don’t have to be boring, mating a (possibly smaller) V6, to some sort of hybrid system could still result in a powerful, and fun beast. Something like a larger version of my lad’s cars system would be the easiest to implement, though, for efficiency, I could see the rear wheels being driven traditionally by the petrol engine, and the front wheels powered by the electric motor - I know that makes it 4wd, which is not necessarily what people want, but the best way to regenerate electrical power is from the front wheels, as that’s where most of the braking energy is dissipated. Having said that, F1 cars don’t do that, and seem to cope quite well, so maybe regenerating energy from the rear wheels under braking would be sufficient - that’s a conundrum for the designers - well above my pay grade.

Anyway, just my two cents....

Whatever, they’ve got to do something about the exhaust!
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Posted 22 October 2019 - 07:14 pm

Fascinating stuff!  Thanks for posting that :thumbs:


'A standard limited edition Yellow 370Zwith a plethora of minor bespoke mods' 

 

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