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Had an Email from Davros with info on the UK GT-R Servicing schedule, Options, Tracker and Smartguard.

 

I think Dave is the First HPC to send all of this info out. B)

 

Paul

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GT_R_Servicing_and_Maintenence_and_costs.doc

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Had an Email from Davros with info on the UK GT-R Servicing schedule, Options, Tracker and Smartguard.

 

I think Dave is the First HPC to send all of this info out. :#1:

 

Paul

 

I got this too and think I'll go for the tracker plus cheopo mats and a tank of super unleaded

 

Did an insurance quote with Admiral and they didn't ask for a tracking device surprisingly. However the quote was quite cheap and the lady on the phone kept going on about insuring a Primera GT :doh:

 

Will anybody admit to spending a grand on mats?

 

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My advice re tracker is tracker isnt worther the paper, and if it was mine, and someone took it? I would want it to stay gone, Afterall thats what insurance is for. Thats what I pay it for. Not paying for insurance to spend more money helping them to hand me back a ragged car, with a wash and a clean.

 

No thanks.

 

But thats just me.

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My advice re tracker is tracker isnt worther the paper, and if it was mine, and someone took it? I would want it to stay gone, Afterall thats what insurance is for. Thats what I pay it for. Not paying for insurance to spend more money helping them to hand me back a ragged car, with a wash and a clean.

 

No thanks.

 

But thats just me.

 

Agreed, if it's gone I want it stayed gone.

 

Wow at the cost of servicing :doh:

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Did an insurance quote with Admiral and they didn't ask for a tracking device surprisingly. However the quote was quite cheap and the lady on the phone kept going on about insuring a Primera GT :doh:

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What about the following?

 

If the transmission temperature goes over 110c, it requires a trans/diff oil service every 1,800 miles, which costs £973. If the trans temperature goes over 140c, then it requires an immediate change.

 

Data-logging from an Australian trackday, had trans temps at 110c after ONE lap and at 136c after 5 laps.

 

This compares to Porsche PDK which requires an oil change every 120,000 miles.

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What about the following?

 

If the transmission temperature goes over 110c, it requires a trans/diff oil service every 1,800 miles, which costs £973. If the trans temperature goes over 140c, then it requires an immediate change.

 

Data-logging from an Australian trackday, had trans temps at 110c after ONE lap and at 136c after 5 laps.

 

This compares to Porsche PDK which requires an oil change every 120,000 miles.

 

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What about the following?

 

If the transmission temperature goes over 110c, it requires a trans/diff oil service every 1,800 miles, which costs £973. If the trans temperature goes over 140c, then it requires an immediate change.

 

Data-logging from an Australian trackday, had trans temps at 110c after ONE lap and at 136c after 5 laps.

 

This compares to Porsche PDK which requires an oil change every 120,000 miles.

 

I bought it for fast road use, where I understand temperature is not such an issue :)

 

plus it is always baltic in this country, which will help :cold:

 

looks pricey for regular tracking though, but I'd buy something else if I was doing that

 

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Just seems a bit bogus that this car has been sold on Ring times, yet you cant really use it on a track as it will cost the earth to run, extra services, not to mention if the oils overheat. Maybe cheaper than a Porsche, but sounds other worldly cost wise to run.

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Yes, the whole advertised circuit driving suitability of the car seems a sham due to the insane maintenance requirements and there's no sign of shame from Nissan or the stealers for not living up to their claims. It truly is a rip-off to run and clearly huge profiteering is going on with the prices of spares and the frequency and amount of change required by the maintenance policies, e.g. Nissan recommend to change all four discs and pads together, for about £3579 fitted. Whereas normal practice is to change in front and rear in pairs when and only when the discs are worn to minimum gauge thickness with independent change of pads as necessary. Davros beats the standard price coming in at about £3365, i.e. about £214 cheaper than other dealers. :)

 

I'm all for looking after my car and maintaining it in tip top condition, but when the maintenance burden goes from the sublime to the ridiculous, I must object!

 

A 997 911TT costs £939 for front pads and disc fitted including VAT and rear brakes cost £839, i.e. £1778 in total (source Porsche 2009 Service Price List). And expects independent front and rear changes as wear requires. The 911TT is 4wd too of course. For info, front pads are £470 fitted, versus £1100 fitted for the GT-R!

 

The 203% extra maintenance cost for the GT-R over a 911TT across the board is breath-takingly eye-wateringly extortionate, whatever way you look at it. As is the Nissan recommendation to change all four together, irrespective of actual wear. Although dealers have said it's ok to fit aftermarket discs and pads and this comes in around £1800 fitted at the mo'. A healthly saving £2350 over stealer prices. Hard to ignore, when the warranty is full of holes anyway and the EU Block Exception Rules currently permit specialist independents to do the work and still maintain the full warranty.

 

Perhaps someone could add the dealer price for a 350Z discs and pads all round, for other-worldly comparison with the GT-R?! :) Somewhere around £700 all in?

 

A new E92 M3 costs somewhere in the middle about £1200 for pads and discs all round fitted (source Autocar), for reference, to show how expensive the Porka and GT-R really are.

 

I was repeatedly told to expect to pay more than a 350Z but less than a 911TT. And I believed it! :yahoo:

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Also from the documentation "Never break in the brake pads on a public road"!

 

Apart from asking Davros to borrow his runway, one might assume that breaking in your brake pads on a non-public road would be equivalent to using it on a track day and therefore require a Post Trackday Inspection also.

 

Whilst I dont believe that, those warranty T&Cs just dont make sense, either from a business, marketing or ownership viewpoint.

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Also from the documentation "Never break in the brake pads on a public road"!

 

Apart from asking Davros to borrow his runway, one might assume that breaking in your brake pads on a non-public road would be equivalent to using it on a track day and therefore require a Post Trackday Inspection also.

 

Whilst I dont believe that, those warranty T&Cs just dont make sense, either from a business, marketing or ownership viewpoint.

Yes, the team who wrote the warranty and maintenance T&Cs are cretinous oafs, imho. :teeth: It puts the good dealers in an impossible position with their customers. :yahoo:

 

Most manufacturers and dealers advise to avoid driving in a manner which requires heavy braking, until the new pads are bedded in through moderate braking pressure (non-glazing) after 60-100 miles of town driving, avoiding motorways and driving at motorway speeds. They certainly don't require high-speed bedding-in on a private road. Clearly, this is totally contrary to normal worldwide common practice and is another example of a stupid and unaceptable warranty requirement. Presumably they are trying to disclaim the risk of liability in the event of an accident due to poor brake performance during the bedding-in process. Do they not realise their customers generally only have access to public roads not private and this policy is unworkable? Ee-jits! :)

 

P.S.: Worth mentioning the recommended break-in speed is above 75 mph !!! :) In violation of applicable laws and thus out of warranty according to their own definition of misuse. Why not just warn customers to be careful during bedding-in? Ee-jits!! :crazy:

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Yes, the team who wrote the warranty and maintenance T&Cs are cretinous oafs, imho. :yahoo:

 

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I have been endeavouring for the past 2 months to get formal clerification on the issues regarding what after track procedures are manditory and which are advisory to keep my warranty valid.

 

As most of you are aware I track every week so this situation will not apply to most but is extremely critical to me.

 

After a heated exchange of words earlier today, combined with a serious threat to cancel my order I eventually extracted a more relaxed attitude and a more understanding of my particular requirments.

 

What I heard was music to my ears and I have now been promised an email tomorrow confirming what has been agreed in principal between myself and my NHPC once they have run there proposals past Nissan.

 

They do agree that this Japanese style of blanket warranty conditions are not suitable to all potential R35 owners and a more relaxed and personal style of conditions should be available to certain individuals who find themselves in an impossible position to be able to comply with the pre and after track conditions, also it was agreed that it was highly possible that the NHPC would not be able to cater with such short notice requests for such checks.

 

I anxiously await confirmation of a "service " plan which would suit my own personal situation.

 

I may add that I am not really personally to concerned about all the other stuff that has been written regarding all the other issues as most are common sense and wear and tear items.

 

But the clutch alignments is something that has to be taken really seriously and I have no issues on paying on a more regular basis than most as I see this as preventative measure to ensure that the transmission stays in one piece.

 

Also as discussed previously more regular fluid changes will be required but to reach the time and temperatures as Nissan have stipulated would be highly unlikely.

 

Earlier in the week I did 12 fast laps around my local circuit, Knockhill and the maximum temps recorded were:

 

Transmission Fluid 106 degrees.

Engine Oil 103 degrees.

Rear Axle 101 degrees.

 

More tomorrow hopefully.

 

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I still want my car. I'm still gonna get my car. I still think its a fabulous machine......

 

but .... those warranty issues are making Nissan, the GT-R and eventually us owners a laughing stock. Goodness knows what JC would say about them on TG!

 

 

I agree

 

As I have said elsewhere; not an issue for me but badly handled by Nissan IMHO

 

However, I wonder if any of this is visible to the average buyer e.g. who doesn't spend time on the boards, as the various issues have not had any (?) mag coverage

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